39:03 Mar 10, 2026
Sustainable Change with Dr. Jacqueline Kerr, Founder @ Leading Real Change
Dr. Jacqueline Kerr argues that science alone never moves policy makers, but their own constituents reliably do.
Dr. Jacqueline Kerr is the Founder of Leading Real Change, an organization dedicated to helping individuals, municipalities, and corporations build change that lasts. With deep expertise in the science and practice of behavior change, Dr. Kerr works at multiple scales, from personal habit formation to organizational transformation, with a consistent focus on creating systems that hold up over time rather than reverting to old patterns.
Her work sits at the intersection of human behavior and environmental responsibility, guiding leaders and organizations through new operations, workflows, and practices in ways that are both thoughtfully designed and sustainable for the long term. She brings a research-grounded approach to what is often treated as a purely intuitive process, offering practical frameworks that make lasting change more achievable at every level.
On The Grove, the podcast produced by Earth Onward, Dr. Kerr joined host to discuss what it actually takes to create change that sticks. The conversation covered change on a personal level, within local communities, across municipal systems, and inside corporations. She shared how sustainable change requires more than good intentions, it demands a foundation built with care, structure, and an eye toward long-term impact, including environmental impact. The episode is a strong resource for anyone building a business, introducing new workflows, or trying to understand why so many change initiatives fall short and what to do differently.
39:03 Mar 10, 2026
Dr. Jacqueline Kerr argues that science alone never moves policy makers, but their own constituents reliably do.